Who?
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) — Intelligence and Armed Services Committees*
*Chair of Senate Armed Services Subcommittee on Emerging Threats & Capabilities, which is scheduled to have its UAP hearing Tuesday, Nov. 19, 2024.
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“My staff told me it's not December, it’s next week,” Gillibrand told Ask a Pol Thursday, after misspeaking on Wednesday. “I’m gonna try and make the whole thing open.”
LISTEN: Laslo & Gillibrand I
Ask a Pol asks:
Still planning Senate UAP hearing this year?
Key Gillibrand — hearing preview:
“We're doing it specifically focused on what happened at Langley and some of these massive drone strikes we're having all across the country,” Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand exclusively tells Ask a Pol.
“And I still want to ask the new head of AARO — I'm meeting with the new AARO director this week,” Gillibrand told us Wednesday. “I want them to show all the videos, examples of what they figured out, and then all the videos, what they can't figure out yet.”
LISTEN — BONUS CLARIFICATION — Laslo & Gillibrand II
Gillibrand olive branch to UFO community:
“I want the community to know this is a body of stuff nobody knows what it is, and so that they feel and know, you're respected, you’re being listened to,” Gillibrand says. “We want your data and information. We want to co-locate it, and we want to cross reference it. And then this is going to be the scientists behind the assessment of: What tech is it? How is it flying? How's it — what's the propulsion? Because even if we don't know whose it is, we need to know how it's doing what it's doing.”
Caught our ear:
“We don't know whose they are. We don't know what propulsion they use. We don't know the tech. We don't know it,” Gillibrand tells us. “It's not off the shelf stuff.”
Below find a rough transcript of Ask a Pol’s exclusive interview with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), slightly edited for clarity.
TRANSCRIPT II: Sen. Gillibrand (11-14-2024)
SCENE: On Thursday morning, the day after the House UAP hearing, Sen. Gillibrand and an aide are walking to the Capitol via the underground walkway alongside the Senate trams. Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo asks the senator for quick clarification that her UAP hearing is indeed scheduled for Nov. 19, and not December, as she mistakenly told Laslo Wednesday.
Kirsten Gillibrand: “How was the hearing yesterday?”
Matt Laslo: “Who knows, I was over here chasing you all!”
KG: “You don’t know the answers?”
ML: “I was listening to it while interviewing you.”
KG: “I was expecting you to tell me what happened!”
Laslo laughs.
ML: “Hey, yesterday you said ‘December’ — I think you meant November?”
KG: “Yeah. It’s next week.”
ML: “Cool, cool.”
KG: “Yeah. My staff told me it's not December, it’s next week.”
AIDE: “It's closed, though.”
KG: “It’s closed?”
AIDE: “Yeah.”
ML: “It says closed but then open at the end.”
AIDE: “Could be both.”
KG: “Well, I’m gonna try and make the whole thing open.”
ML: “Yeah?”
KG: “I’ll find out.”
Laslo nods.
KG: “I’m gonna find out.”
TRANSCRIPT I: Sen. Gillibrand (11-13-2024)
SCENE: In the middle of Wednesday’s House UAP hearing, Ask a Pol’s Matt Laslo had to run to the Senate — while listening to the hearing on C-SPAN! — to cover the election of incoming Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD).
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While staking out the Senate Republican Conference vote, Laslo ran into Gillibrand and informed her of the House UAP hearing and got an exclusive update on her own Senate UAP hearing scheduled for Nov. 19, 2024.
Matt Laslo: “…are you watching the UAP hearing in the House at all?”
Kirsten Gillibrand: “No, what are they doing? Tell me the topic!”
ML: “They have Lue Elizondo, like, four whistleblowers. UAPs, kind of broadly…”
KG: “Did they say, like, the government has a program and they’re hiding it or…?”
ML: “Yeah. That’s what some of the testimony is. You'll have to go back…”
KG: “Any new details?”
ML: “Well, they keep saying ‘we can only answer that in a classified setting.’”
Gillibrand lets out a disappointed laugh.
ML: “I know, right? Are you still planning…”
KG: “I want to know the details!”
ML: “Are you still planning to have one?”
KG: “Yeah, I’m gonna have mine. I think we have a date in December.”
ML: “Oh, interesting.”
KG: “And we're doing it specifically focused on what happened at Langley and some of these massive drone strikes we're having all across the country. And some of the information that's been publicly available about those is very concerning.”
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ML: “Right?”
KG: “Very concerning. So we're going to talk about that. And I still want to ask the new head of AARO — I'm meeting with the new AARO director this week.”
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ML: “Oh, interesting. So do you still want to have AARO in that hearing?”
KG: “And I want them to show all the videos, examples of what they figured out, and then all the videos, what they can't figure out yet.”
ML: “Yeah?”
KG: “Because I want the community to know this is a body of stuff nobody knows what it is, and so that they feel and know, you're respected, you’re being listened to. We want your data and information. We want to co-locate it, and we want to cross reference it. And then this is going to be the scientists behind the assessment of: What tech is it? How is it flying? How's it — what's the propulsion? Because even if we don't know whose it is, we need to know how it's doing what it's doing.”
ML: “Right?”
KG: “And some of these drones are in that category. We don't know whose they are. We don't know what propulsion they use. We don't know the tech. We don't know it. It's not off the shelf stuff.”
ML: “Right?”
KG: “And that's what is so important: It's not off the shelf stuff. It's either extremely next gen by an adversary that we don't know about. So it's very concerning. So that's why I want to focus on, like, let's take the shared data and information and really delve into it deeply. Show what we know. Show we don't know. Ask the community to help us, and then you don't have to worry about, like, what they're not telling you. Because if they're not going to tell us, then they're never going to tell us, but we have all this shared data and information that if we can assess and analyze then we are on common ground.”
ML: “Interesting.”
KG: “So that's what I'm very focused on.”
ML: “I’ll be watchin.”
KG: “Yes.”
ML: “Preciate you!”
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